The featherlight contour barrel helps reduce weight without adversely affecting accuracy. It is contoured for a lightweight profile and chambered with the 22 lr. The best I own.The products are exactly what they say they are. @*~13J8cujZ,,;0upX! (wC^,fQS(W=VNkv ] endstream endobj 175 0 obj <>stream Once clear, fire 2 three-shot groups. Wv[9k.Ji#2AlTJ-w]cs_Z vOjEA6XDNJCn,SS@1^m,7VSWO0&e'M,,m[k\nIDq${G%/kW= b*KBwe`, l *7f?2Kw65l[Nzf! Action. #r5&vtRN,-}@tN8MQ/lg$vza~E`7J}?7Ul6v97p[4+M2 .c> g`k9ES3pA;Gl`zDmqPe#(I*ea,ZJQf#B %PDF-1.5 % Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. The occurrence of POI shift would roughly correspond to the length of time between strings. It is chambered in .243 Win., .270 Win., .308 Win., .30/06, 7mm Rem. Twist Rate: 1:8. That's why they only last 200 rounds. To make the shopping experience with Brownells better, we have a number of representatives in Europe. Now I was also shooting multiple different ammos for the other stuff in post 2. I have bore scoped the barrel and everything checks out ok. Many have commented get about 500 rounds through it and then come back and tell us how it is going. 0000001908 00000 n They are simply the best shooting carbon barrels we have tested to date. ergonomic platform featuring a palma stainless steel barrel along with a carbon fiber, composite stock. I mean I still hadn't even gotten a rough zero. Find Reviews, Ratings, Directions, Business Hours, Contact Information and book online appointment. Christensen Arms Carbon Fiber Rem 700 Short Chambered Barrel, 300 Win Mag 26" 1:10 Twist. BOLT-ACTION. Bought a Mesa in 7mm rem mag. They are great barrels. So, to answer that question about the most accurate rifles madehere they are. I had never "shot" a Christensen Arms gun, nor did I know anything about them. Every one should own at least one Christensen rifle. A radial stainless-steel muzzle brake is threaded on the barrel, which has 5/8 . 0000005104 00000 n I was a bit hesitant after reading so many negative reviews but went with CA. I asked for assistance in picking the scope. Currently borrowing a Tikka Tac A1 till I get my MPR back, its shipping tomorrow. Has anyone who owns a Christensen Arms rifle had a problem with them grouping poorly? Either from Christensen themselves or Midwest Gun Works? At 50, I would be able to get a 3 or 4 round group in a roughly 4 inch group (still so unacceptable) and then I'd get a unpredictable POI shift from 4 to 10! i've had problems with my boys but that issue was the feed ramp. Also no. I spend two hours shooting Hornady 178 ELD Match. Tolerance and modern milling means there is no need for a "break in" anymore. I mounted a S&B Mil Pm 3x12. Breaking in a barrel consists of a series of shooting and cleaning sequences. Thanks for the replies, and thanks for the welcome. The measured weight is 708.4 grams for the barrel and 136.7 grams for the break gas block assembly totaling 844.11 grams. The cylindrical machined titanium action is mated to a Christensen Arms 416R stainless steel, featherlight contour, bead-blasted barrel with removable stainless steel radial brake. I was gearing towards Christensen and Sako, but decided to go custom. Any thoughts on a good place to start looking for used glass? I was glad to I was able to purchase some 2 years after buying my rifle. Shooting steel to 1k? Thanks again. It does not store any personal data. Weight is not a deal breaker for me. Christensen Arms Carbon Tension Barrel is made from a 416R button rifled, lapped barrel blank. Companies can ask for reviews via automatic invitations. However, no POI shift was ever the same and never returned to a previous zero. Like it said in my last post though, by your original post it seems like you shot the MPR first warming up. Good rifles will print some loads very well. But a shift AND spread of 4 -10 inches at 100 yards for a $2,300!!!! A friend of mine recently bought a christiansen Ridgeline in 300 rum, has carbon fiber barrel. I've only handled the MPR, and was favorably impressed by it. It delivers exceptional accuracy and performance for the price. Does not shoot MOA or anywhere near. Will update sometime next week when I get to the range. I have a 300 RUM i bought a few years ago (before the ridge line introduction), and it shoots well and consistent out to 1000 yards. Always sold out online. Hotjar sets this cookie to identify a new users first session. Christensen Arms Carbon Fiber Wrapped MSR Barrel, 6.5 Creedmoor 24" 1:8, Rifle Length Gas System. My overall was longer then my 3.75 mag. The cookie is created when the JavaScript library executes and there are no existing __utma cookies. IMO CA having this policy on their website is just an out to allow them to brush off defects on to the owner. I just purchased an MPR in 300prc I have put about 100 rounds through this rifle and I can say it is a flat out tack driver, I love the folding stock makes it easy to pack, I put a sig sauer scope on it, also a carbon fiber bipod which matches up nicely with the barrel. My issues with Christensen Arms barrel problems. He didn't really elaborate as to measurements of groups but he seemed less than impressed. So dont be surprised to see these cartridges offered in a growing number of production rifles. They knew EVERYTHING about their product line and along with the staff of The Armories, we were all super impressed. The communications and quick responses to my questions from Jeff, Kystren and Michelle made the purchase of of my rifle a great experience. Thank you so much for this .. exactly what I was looking for .. 0000638807 00000 n Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. The bottom plate doesnt appear to have been replaced, there are still traces of the dark discoloration visible. like no words Obviously certain guns don't run certain pills well, but at a 100 yards, you cant tell me a different grain is going to fix a 10! All these cartridges shoot .243-caliber bullets at velocities in the 2700 to 2950 fps range. Hotjar sets this cookie to know whether a user is included in the data sampling defined by the site's daily session limit. I still say shooter error. 3 RANGER 22 STRUCTURE MODEL . i cant remember is this their match grade barrel. A cookie set by YouTube to measure bandwidth that determines whether the user gets the new or old player interface. Who makes the barrels for them, or are they built completely inhouse? The first day at the range I shot 1/2 and under at 100, with FACTORY 180 gr accubonds and 180 gr BT. Its been 2 weeks now and no return answer since they received it. This with factory Norma 150 grain soft point ammo. Is there a difference between the barrels used for your 1/2 MOA rifles versus your Sub-MOA rifles? I allowed for about a 10 minute break. So whats next? https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/christensen-arms-mpr-initial-review.6879393/, Failure to feed Custom Shop RPR 6.5 Creedmoor, Christensen Arms MPA .308 Proven TACK driver, Carbon Fiber Wrapped 16 Barrel, Blessed Rifle Shoots .5 MOA w FACTORY LOADS, Christensen Arms MPR Handguard Top Rail Solution, Christensen arms 6.5 prc with McMillan game hunter stock. The ergonomics of the stockparticularly the vertical pistol gripare about the best Ive ever seen, though the cheekpiece tends to bite the shooters face under recoil. My hunting pard bought a Christensen Ridgeline in 6.5x284 and took it hunting to WY this fall. You literally gave us NOTHING to go off of. I was wanting one in 300 Norma. Hotjar sets this cookie to detect the first pageview session of a user. I hope they take good care of you and resolve this quickly. 0000638076 00000 n How are your barrels rifled? Gun would not come close to a 1 inch group. 0000638363 00000 n Christensen Arms barrels are designed using precision engineering adopted from the aerospace industry; Christensen Arms Rem 700 compatible carbon-fiber barrels are crafted using a proprietary layered design that offers any marksman superior accuracy and performance. Many factors influence accuracy such as ammunition, conditions, shooter ability, etc. wildcat455 Well-Known Member Joined I'm no competitive shooter, but I know more than a thing or two about guns. The site owner may have set restrictions that prevent you from accessing the site. They said they changed out the barrel for a new one. Prophet river sells only , corlane sports fixes only in this case (I didnt buy from them ) and Christensen arms only builds the gun , they dont sell or fix them !! I have also ordered probably six 30 cal carbon blanks, a few 6.5's, and a 223 along with a few 338's. Every single blank shot under .5 moa with no issues. Bolt Carrier Group: Black Nitride Finish. Weighs in at about 14 lbs with a G2 Razor 4.5-27, and Atlas CAL bipod if that helps you any. We can take a clue from the world of target shooting. In Stock. Please see pictures for more details. I can wait to get it sighted in. 5 different brands, grains, manufacturers of ammo and nothing. I went from defending Christensen Arms, to urging people to never buy one of these rifles. I called Krieger and ordered a blank yesterday afternoon after debating whether or not to buy a CF barrel from Proof Research. Now they only wrap their barrels. accurate firearm with cutting-edge, aerospace technology thats not I called Christensen Arms and received a rude reception. A no-nonsense hunting rifle which is enjoyed by hunters and precision shooters alike. but there is an issue with the weapon. Due to this, I brought in my target to 50 with a fresh target and began again, hoping to get a group closer and figure out what was going on. Wr 8EJ }e6{,P62,G5eq:kuo\*jOe That is my experience shooting this rifle. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Its no coincidence that the most accurate rifles Ive tested over the years are chambered in the hottest new roundsthe 6.5 Creedmoor, 6 Creedmoor, and, more recently, the 6.5 PRC. The only factory ammo I could find. I'm no competitive shooter, but I know more than a thing or two about guns. This cookie is installed by Google Universal Analytics to restrain request rate and thus limit the collection of data on high traffic sites. HUn@}W#H61. 0000003569 00000 n Thanks for the reply. a burden to carry all day even if you dont get to take a shot. I shot the Mesa yesterday at a 100 yard indoor range and printed sub .40 3 shot groups. I recently sent my Christensen back for it had horrible chrony results and second when I did a OAL to start reloading it was reamed to deep. If I could sell this monstrosity and buy an MPA, or hell even another budget ass plastic ass Savage (I <3 my savage, no offense to you) Id do it in an instant. Introduced in 2018, it is rugged, simple, and accurate. We take them on trade all the time for our custom rifles. It stores a true/false value, indicating whether it was the first time Hotjar saw this user. Just sprayed all types of ammo. He advised it should be able to keep a decent group with 20 rounds. "++CHRISTENSEN ARMS 14 6.5 PRC" SKU: 3665153. . The barrel lining is made from match-grade 416R stainless steel . 0000006227 00000 n My family has had an FFL for years. The light weight aside, the carbon-fibre technology also meanst the . to identify and resolve the problem. The button-rifled, hand-lapped barrels on these rifles feature a match chamber, 1/2x28 threads on the muzzle and come with a recoil lug sandwiched between the barrel . I would try a different scope before I blamed the rifleI agree with Cory - You can not accurately draw the conclusion you have from the targets you have shown. Buy Christensen Arms Mesa Long Range .300 PRC 26: GunBroker is the largest seller of Bolt Action Rifles Rifles Guns & Firearms All: 972226884 . The Proof barrels Ive seen shoot lights out, as good as any custom tube. The bottom metal allows the rifle to utilize AICS magazines. You do not have access to www.brownells.com. 0000057372 00000 n optics rail, and the TriggerTech trigger is a fantastic single-stage adjustable. We use dedicated people and clever technology to safeguard our platform. Given the different thermal expansion rates of carbon fiber and steel stress relief would likely cause delamination and would void any warranty anyhow. The company's first product, though, was not a barrel. A 3rd shooter fired 2 groups thru it. Go look through my comments, I DEFENDED CA against these rumors when I first got this gun. It is the tactical style. What I see from that MPR 25 round group is several individual groups which tells me you're not breaking the shot the same each time. !!!! It can't just disappear. Unopened or handled. First make sure that the barrel is clean and free of any oil or solvents from shipping or the manufacturing processes. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. This is due to outside of the barrel sleeves not being concentric with the bore. Requested URL: www.brownells.com/gun-parts/rifle-parts/rifle-barrels-parts/bolt-action-6.5-creedmoor-carbon-fiber-barrel, User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 15_3_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/15.3 Mobile/15E148 Safari/604.1. Meet the newest and most compact addition to our firearm lineup, ready for backpacking or back-country hunting. Gun would not come close to a 1 inch group. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Christensen Arms 8010116800. When they first started they would wrap any barrel. Please keep us updated. Learn more . My 700 in a krg same thing. On the other hand my match rifles don't shift POI during a 20 round string. Have any of you tried the short chamber offerings in these barrels? Likely the barrel wasn't stress relieved prior to carbon fiber wrapping so the residual stresses are still there. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". [lJG@I`:= *Px32.rsM)U Y.J!+,9GbocbuBh:V:khT 4y rSHpJ;WiK1h#us"g#V]V{GGG{I^|\q;v[ m#XU\5 WSurbVVUQWhpPs .o@ci |U+4S9aA;Y4z% Wbg[vok f|T 0 >* endstream endobj 33 0 obj <>stream Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. 2006 - 2023 BPS Direct, L.L.C. Take on the toughest hunts with our most popular hunting rifle. After every range session I have been putting about 1 to 2 magazines down the barrel. . Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. G endstream endobj 178 0 obj <>stream Yikes!!! 0000001431 00000 n In the website, its not very clear that I could actually buy a zero-degree rail (duplicating the one it came with), so I had to call customer service. . It has a three-lug action that runs smoothly in the receiver, a good trigger, and a stock fashioned in the classic American style. When shooting matches I can economize by using the Am Gunner ammo for targets inside 500 and I do it with my ballistic app set for the Match ammo. I ordered a muzzle brake for my Christensen .300 ultra mag. rifle is absolutely bat shit insane like insane. You "notices" were not helpful.I'm grateful I have the item, I love the product, I tell ALL my friends how much I love the the product - but - your notification system needs HELP, lots of Help. Just sprayed all types of ammo. send it back it has a quarantee. I hope your gun issues get resolved. 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You are using an out of date browser. Privacy Policy. They dont build rifles like they used to. Never had this much of a problem with any of my guns wow i have the same cal . https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/source-for-bergara-extractor.6914434/, seriously, there wasn't even 1/8" of clearance, One Piece vs Two Piece (Removable Forend) Chassis. I keep hearing shooter error, some of it is, no one is perfect. I would imagine the whole process of bonding/wrapping the barrels, turning them, stress relief and other work going into it adds several compounding factors. I have definitely heard some horror stories about Christensen Arms, however the stories I have heard of were more related to chambering issues. The cookie stores information anonymously and assigns a randomly generated number to recognize unique visitors. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Al's has not heard a word. My experience with Christensen CS has not been impressive. Real world testing is what you will get here. Plenty of the CTR groups are walking all over too but not as bad as the 25 round group from the MPR. I suspect they will have the 1:8s soon if they dont already. I have been a long time reader but not an official member. !I have returned the wrong product back to Christensen for a refund. JavaScript is disabled. My MPR shot unimpressive groups with factory ammo as well, but not quite as bad as those. 0000054724 00000 n The cookie is updated every time data is sent to Google Analytics. VXS|+]7 Sounds like you may be reading from too many fb pages. Where is the heat going? Like I said before Christensen seems like they produce a high quality product and I would expect nothing less from them, this thread in no way would keep me from purchasing anything from them, other than im a little on the fence on there carbon barrels. I have three currently and had 6 others. 0000057435 00000 n This situation is something else Ive never had an issue like this with any rifle I own from any manufacturer. What calibers if you dont me asking? Fast response and helpful. Literally the last shots fired. 0000012285 00000 n Those are the two offerings I have found so far anyway. How much better can we expect rifles and cartridges to perform? Mine, in 6.5 CM, has turned in numerous bug-hole groups, including a .181-inch screamer. BadRock is owned by Defiance Machine, the foremost maker of precision-rifle actions, and uses a Defiance action. QEw%!-(Vq b> l~ ! A few days later, I went into The Armories in Winter Garden Florida and purchased a Christensen Arms rifle. I've had the chance to shoot both a Bergara Premier LRP Elite and a Chistensen TFM in the past year (more experience with the TFM), so here's my brief comparison between the two: I have a HMR in 6.5 that has about 600 rounds through it with zero problems.It shoots .4/.5 with handloaded 130 Berger hunting vld's over 42 grains of H4350.The only complaint I have with the rifle is that I wish it had a heavier profile barrel than a #5 contour. My family has had an FFL for years. Barrel: Christensen Arms 18" Free-Floated Tensioned Carbon Fiber, Hand Lapped, Bentz Match Chamber, 1:16" RH Twist, 1/2x28 TPI with Smooth Thread Protector. group very well . Well, I was finally able to get out to the range again with the "Good Ammo" that I had on hand. About To Buy A Rifle in .308 Win Steyr Vs. Bergara Vs. Howa? It should not be walking like that. My test rifle delivered terrific accuracy with a variety of factory loads. The Mesa FFT utilizes an ultralight contour stainless steel barrel with a Cerakote finish, seamless removable radial muzzle brake, and is . I was looking into purchasing one to mount on a 700 action. This review is the only one I have seen, and it seems that maybe CA has not gotten their carbon barrel tech quite to where they thought it was. Picture of the gun below. All Christensen Arms 1911 handguns have a 2" 5-shot 25-yard accuracy guarantee. There barrels actually insulate and trap heat in, (that's what carbon fiber does) dispite what there ads claim. UPC. Who here has been behind both and if so what is your opinion if you had to choose between one or the other ? I would recommend Christernsen Firearms to my students if there looking for a light weight and accurate rifle that did not beat you to death. The Traverse weighs in starting at 7.3 pounds and is backed by the Christensen Arms Sub-MOA Guarantee. Don't second guess this rifle it is an amazing shooter you won't be disappointed. As youll see, some are made for competition, and some are made for hunting. $350.00 + $24.00 shipping. Barrel: 16" 416R Stainless Steel Aerograde Carbon Fiber Wrapped. Foot of the Big Belt Mountains near Townsend MT. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The first is: What are the best rifles money can buy these days? Well, if you want an answer to that, pour some whiskey and pull up a chair because there are many layers to that question and were going to be here a while.