Straight shooter and solid guy. Yes, Gabe, I remember having to wear only flimsy brown slippers and boxer shorts and walking that way outside while it was snowing. that shit was awesome. Message me jamie_wilson_@msn.com. I was there for the Upper level Prom which I was fortunate enough to dance with a very attractive (and I think even taller than me) blonde. if you were sitting on lower levels for a couple years like i was YOU WERE DOING TIME. Omg Ian and Jennifer, I totally remember you guys (and maybe others)! He was one of the good ones in the jr. Staff. Toooo many memories to start. Simply try to forgive, forget, and move on. i did meet some other victims of this place that I love to pieces and some are on my facebook. And thats what they would do. I endured every type of abuse imaginable there..I hope the families of those who have died from the negligence receive justice! Whether you had a good experience or not, never discredit the pain of others because you have no idea what those kids had to experience behind closed doors. I wished I would have run sooner. We are aware of Youth Foundation, and their staffs seedy past But I didnt know they owed so much money. Im sorry it happened to anybody. Her name was Emily Gleason. I actually found this page because I had to list my graduating school which was spring creek. I had no idea there were websites like this. I was thinking in my dumb little head that Id be somewhere like Zoey101 and my mom was giving me this great opportunity to go away for school. We had the worst reputation which i somewhat enjoyed. READ REDFIN'S FAIR HOUSING POLICY. He started indoctrinating us during this time where we all felt literally lost in the woods to his version of how we should view ourselves and the way we had been living. Anyone knows Jet or Scott Snijder? I dont see that as an excuse for doing what he did if he did it, but yeah, he was screwed with like all of us. Those kids deserved that, they asked for it. That was all the best craziest I can say right now or Ill be typing for atleast a week. Please drop a line after you do! I hope the staff there burn in Hell. I had friends in high school that were taken to places like this and wondered what they went through. I was there in 2004 in eternity family. I was scared to talk about it till I was in my 30s. Anyway love to get in contact with anyone who knows the two I mentioned or myself. Few places on earth can match the picturesque beauty of the DePuy ranch with the Absaroka Mountains towering above a valley filled with deer, swans, cranes and bubbling trout waters. The guy who conducted those warped seminarsDavid Gilcrease was his name, I thinkhe scared me. The place was crazy for sure and did my share of time in worksheets and whatever the hell that place was where you had to lay on the concrete all day.. but honestly I didnt think it was life scarring. The more eyes on this the more this facility will have a spotlight on them. Its your own doing! I have apologized to her but not sure she really forgives me. After abusing hundreds, maybe even thousands of teenagers this man has finally been stopped. The Spring Creek Ranch in Beatty, Oregon, is arguably the best value family-sized cattle operation on the market today. Other than the wolf dog and the couple of friends I made, that place was a nightmare. Yeah its amazing how every parent got sold the your kids gonna wind up dead story. The last thing I said because I was confused at what I was seeing and hearing was. Im pretty sure you could have ate steak and went to the movies on your own free will whenever you wanted in the free world Im a lil dumbfounded by your explanation of this place. Brandy, from California. Copyright 2021 Spring Creek Campground - All Rights Reserved. Bunch of liars here. later that night when i went to go vote up he was one of the junior staff that stood up and didnt support me voting up. Be prepared boys and girlsRoger is as dumb and sadistic as it gets. Bamandah@gmail.com. I was one of the first to show up in 96.i remember all you guys. I am hoping you remember me! I admit that there were times (too numerous to count) that I cried on the way home because of the sheer weight of my girls' problems that I carried with me. Bath/Showers are located by the main office. Jay with the dish bowl chest. I would like to contact anyone who was in Paradise Cove and Spring Creek Lodge with my son Joshua Lambert 1997=1999 and witness abuse toward him. If my child ever reads this I want her to know that I am sorry. After extensive prepping and planning. If that doesnt sum up their bullshit in one sentence I would like to know what does. Gabrielle.gray@ymail.com. But scl was filled with the same shit. Your email address will not be published. Hey. I told her to stay strong, do her best and to look around her and find strength in nature and what she sees around her. They tried to restrain me, prevent me from sleeping, and other methods of unpleasantness. I believed that his counselor, Laurie was looking out for him. Brain washing and like a cult. figured he was one of the good guys. During this time, Steve Cawdrey would come walking in outta nowhere and every couple days and along with our guides would inflict upon us his crackpot version of therapy where he let the wilderness conditions break us down mentally so he could begin rehabilitating us. To those of you who bled and cried with us through gravel pits and focus seminars (lifeboat process ) I love you and if we unite against these bastards in a mature and orderly fashion, we can give them the coups de grace that they need. CHILDREN NEVER, EVER ASK FOR OR DESERVE ABUSE. They put a hose through the top an turned it on then knoxked over the porta potty. Cameron became my new guardian and made that perfectly clear when I got there. Scared clutching the back railing. In any event guys like Brian Culkins, Cam & Chaff, Duane Smotherman etc. I personaly never got beaten but fot caught up in all the games played there. This program truly DID open my eyes to how FOOLISH and STUPID i was acting as a teenager. Also 3 mi. Of course you cant find golf balls in the woods! The Pullansserved as owners and administrators of the SCL facility until 2009, when the school was closed. He was assigned to be my shadow and he had been there for 13 months or something and was almost out of there but he was still the same person that arrived there just faking it to get out of there. I had never had a filling/cavity in my life and came home with ~20. Those asshole twins never submitted them. Before that I lost mass amounts of weight because the food was almost inedible. I made the mistake of crossing the jr. Staff at a facility meeting for abuse and was relegated to level 3 status no matter how much time I spent as family leader and asst. The creek is an insect factory and produces an ample supply of mayflies, midges, caddis flies and freshwater crustaceans. Dude that was me jake and Eugene but I didnt make it out the window in time. The creeks have prolific hatches that occur throughout the year. View this $0 0 bed, 0.0 bath, sqft single family home located at Spring Creek Ranch Blm #50 built in on Zillow. He helped me get out of there. I was assigned a family and a back-stabbing bunk buddy. When i went i was 17 so i only had a year to do. I made some life long friends. .. my heart breaks that she felt no way out but she didnt have a way out. Then your going to eat generic count chocula cereal or some bland ass oatmeal without butter or sugar if youre not a level two. Ill never forget Zach. My name is Stephanie Hudson and i went to Spring Creek Lodge in 1999-2000. What a wild ride! It all starts with hiring people qualified to care for kids. I remember you, I believe. Age 13 hit the survival challenge program. Im sure your one of the few. I would make my nose bleed and went through a whole box of tampons and kept making my nose bleed. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google. It sucked when you had to lug that thing around. I was in Spring Creek Lodge from 1999- 2000. They both obviously were sadists, and I know that WWASPs employs perverts ( Robert Lichfield himself has even been rumored to be a rapist), but I just got a particular kind of weird feeling about Chaffin especially. I liked him a lot. Oh oh . Spring Creek Campground - Rv Park - Big Timber, Montana "Come experience a piece of riverfront paradise in Big Timber, Montana". A link to purchase your Montana license online is also provided, Frequently asked questions related to fly fishing in Montana and about our fishing trips and packages, Montana Angler is a family run business that prides itself on working with the best guides and lodging options in Montana, Read what our guests have to say about our trips and learn why we are rated #1 in Trip Advisor and have a 5 star average on our Orvis reviews. It sound crazier even now, thinking about it as a grown man. This is odd. Anybody remember that kid Torrey? REDFIN and all REDFIN variants, TITLE FORWARD, WALK SCORE, and the R logos, are trademarks of Redfin Corporation, registered or pending in the USPTO. They were shown they could have a little power over others and ran with it and for the majority of them came across to me as kids that didnt really belong in any sort of place like this. Myles cee gavon brodnax in the house. I work for the railroad and happened to be in Heron Montana working this last week. There are so many more facesI cant remember names. I remember level 3+ (All Star), 4, 5 and 6 activities.pop, candy, moviesand girls that us guys couldnt talk to. I knew if I didnt that Id never get out, so I think I got to level 4 before, with a rare phone privilege because my uncle had died in Iowa, and I tried to convince my Dad to let me go to the funeralwhich I ended up not going to after all was said and done, but it did give me chance to convince my Dad I was doing well and ready to go back to normal high school starting after the winter break. but i remember being really happy when you guys did that, like at least someone else thought that place was stupid and did something. i know you just want to help and i envy your husband for having such a committed wife. There was no way in hell I was going to become another statistic. Yeah you must be a staff member hahahahaha. I was driving my work truck back West to Clarkfork, ID from Heron, MT along the frontage road. Bye. No wonder you enjoyed your time there. I had no idea until a little while ago that any of this had happened. But they wanted to try to make you hold each others hands and dress like women all kinds of weird bullshit. He was there for 10 months 1996-1997. All the brainwashed nitwits tattling on family moms who broke the rules and were just trying to make our time a little more pleasurable. Anybody remember that kid Torrey? I was there in 2003. I think the reason Im pretty good with names is only because Cameron (we called him Dough Boy) had me do the censusso Id type up all the kids names on that weekly level report they posted in the hallway of the school buildingthe building across from the Hungry Horse that had the case workers like Laurie Travers & Jades wife Cassies offices in the middleso yeah, I can recall a lot of names. I was 14. I got there at 16 and learned very fast i was going to ride out at level 1 until I turned 18 and just walk down the road. Ive known people who have done it. I dont know how complicit he was with the Chaffins of the world but I think they kept him on the sidelines. I watch as my other siblings get love but theres never enough left over for me. It sucks but it is what it is you make the best with what life throws at you. if anyone out there remebers me email me I would like to hook up with some of you guys. My job on day shift was family parent. Sooo, how can you be a parent if you do not have a relationship with your family. That was one of the MANY rules that I broke:) I was in respect with you bro. Professional guide services are a great option to acquaint an incoming owner with the water. Parking, utilities, exterior, etc. So Diana, when were you there? Id like to hear from you sometime. We will help you hand pick the perfect lodge, design a great fishing program and help coordinate all logistics from airport transfers to meeting, Explore the world's most amazing fisheries with our destination travel program. know this. And as trainer I nearly became corrupt as the staff at first. Loved many of them. My father had me kidnapped and taken In cuffs to another state where I wasnt legally an adult. I had already downloaded the Kindle version from our local public librarys website and had started reading it. Arrived in SCL in 1998 and took my exit plan at 18 in 2000. Choose from Montana's most comprehensive selection of fly fishing trips. He is literally the reason why I am here today. I feel so much for all whom were in place. The Chick-fil-A App is not presently accepted at Chick-fil-A Express and Chick-fil-A licensed locations such as those in airports and college campuses. I successfully escaped from that place by stealing a workers truck in middle of night and driving to Spokane Washington and from there I got on a train to san francisco bay area in California. Hopefully they have since realized what a grave mistake they made and have tried to make amends, and hopefully youve been able to find it in your troubled, eternally scarred hearts to forgive them. The only friend I made there was an upper level named will from Houston Texas (if he ever sees this I just wanted to thank you my nigga and hope u didnt get in trouble because of me). candice is my real name, not rebecca. It was almost daily that you were in the hobbit. What about you? I was a fairly good kid and my parents were rich and didnt want to deal with a teen. I was forced to sleep in a tent with members of the opposite sex. Lol fuck that place! We have multiple tent sites that can be reserved online. Redfin has 44 photos of Nhn Nevada Spring Creek Rnch. This is utterly ridiculous nonsensical logic. It was cool cuz I went n stole the staffs ciggs n got to do whatever I wanted. The rest off us (a pretty wide cross section of folks at that) seem to see what went on in Montana as a simple get rich quick scheme by a bunch of Mormon carpetbaggers. I called it my Space Suit because the cold was real and deadly. High Impact in Mexico definitely did not help and my only reward for graduating that boot camp in Mexico is getting sent back to Spring Creek Lodge until I left at 18. I found out yesterday chaffin was arrested as a child molester for having sex with one of the girls in the program. I found your site after reading a cautionary review on Amazon.com of Teen Whisperer by Mike Linderman. Know when to ask questions know when to back off, know when to be a friend, know when to parent. No wonder that girl killed herself. The surrounding porches provide ideal places to enjoy long summer evenings. Did I enjoy being there, no. There was another Billy from Vegas. Rebecca And collin is a big, built, corn fed country boy. if u are ever on this site again, Yes Im 52 and was at spring creek in 83-84 I still to this day have PTSD nightmares and an not on speaking terms with my family. Luckily it had a speaker in there so it would do last calls for every departure. Oh and if you struggle with school work good luck. Its hard to put into words. Dont give up on your kids. Reading about Josh Lambert is crazy. The next time the Flue rag bitches tried to creep on us, they got completely smashed on. Then back to class one more time then back to your dorm for the night and you would get a muffin for a snack. What fucking psycho plays tony Robbins at every fucking meal. This marine wiuld loveeeeee to meet up with colby. He acts like it didnt even happen. Sounds like I never got my resolution from being in this place. Maybe he figures were too f-ing stupid to look into the people we hope to glean some advice and guidance from. I learned so much while I was there but it wasnt until my 30s that I applied any of it to my life. Spring Creek Ranch, a year-round luxury resort, is located on a wildlife sanctuary, almost 984 feet above the town of Jackson, with views of the Teton Mountain Range, including the world famous 14,000 foot Grand Teton peak. I remember Joshua somewhat. I was there 2002-2003. Rebecca, i was part of that naked girls running. All in all it is all as it is supposed to be. If spring creek was bad I was worse. I kept in touch with Henry a bit. I started hitting my self in the face, like punching my face so hard over and over again. I remember an older Mexican girl named Claudia, ilianna, holly poe, marybeth those are some of the names from innocence that stick.out, I was in innocence in 99. In fact, I actually got away with not talking to anyone for a few months. www.ranchflip.com is using a security service for protection against online attacks. Options include unique fishing lodges, exclusive ranch stays, riverside vacation rentals, and affordable hotel packages. I wouldnt believe it if I hadnt seen it with my own eyes. No wonder my counselor at school had so many questions when I told her I went to Spring Creek. Click on "BOOK NOW" above to make your reservations for the coming season. I was ghost. I think I remember Megan. She got me some bright yellow jacket that wasnt all that warm.. Mike. Im relieved to know this place was shut down. That place fucked me up so much worse than I came in. That was the site of the slow realization that the nightmare was not over. The insane running the asylum. I remember 18 year old activities going to the local grocery and Every one of us buying a fat steak and watching a movie in the trailer. Sorry about your luck, Mr. Mike. Luckily I was 17 at my time of imprisonment and only had 10 1/2 months to wait out till my 18th birthday. Helped others escape. I said 2 because I cant get through focus seminar he said youre a level 3 all star now. The honor among those being exploited. I try getting out, then I wake up. Thank you, Do I still have anger issues? I remember the harsh lessons of the cold. Hid them in the dryer tube ,every Sunday when we had to clean I would grab a pack , smoked them out the bathroom window at night. Honestly Ive never really been the same anxiety and paranoia surround my life, which all the Xanax in the world wont take away Ive tried. Our rare trips to the little library (which I was usually barred from attending) were depressing. I was at SCL from 2005 to 2007, and I feel exactly the same way as Zach. I then had a yes or no conversation about how if I got to the level where they would let me visit home. Do not sell or share my personal information. Few places on earth can match the picturesque beauty of the DePuy ranch with the Absaroka Mountains towering above a valley filled with deer, swans, cranes and bubbling trout waters. I repressed memories about my transport and time at SCL for years. It was never a picnic for you guys. Oh shut up. Why does she want to leave so bad? If (and hopefully when) you DO come to terms with what happened to you, we will be here for you, as we have been for so many others. This wasnt a law? In a way we are kind of like people who have been through any sort of trauma and didnt seek help. This place was disgusting seriously whoever thought that torturing kids helped them is a horrible person. Did I not have enough respect? This included the confiscation of my black and purple polka dot underwear. i wish you all good luck and lots off love. I cant remember if we did that every day or not but thats when I played basketball and would drink out of this spring fed faucet that was always surrounded by bees which tripped me out because they would never sting you.then back to class. I was sent away because I was a less than desirable child to have in your home. I am sick reading all of these comments. I am so surprised even now seeing the names of the girls from Serenity that I dont remember them. Its all part of the experience and sadly, a lot of teens didnt have the chance to experience any of it. He was my bunk mate upstairs in Grizzly. I drove west back up toward where she might have been and pulled in at Atkins Gas Station. It was attached to another dorm by a door, but we werent allowed to talk to the girls living there. Considered one of the finest luxury equine ranches in the West, Western Ranch Brokers is honored to have represented Copper Spring Ranch as part of an off-market transaction. Energy suck, emotional suck, attention suck! If you were a student/detainee, I would say the Pullans and. I would love to chat with you!!! The 3 day seminars way in the back of the woods is something that i will never forget. I was there too. Mike Linderman was one of the therapists who worked at SCL. She always had that resting b#*!ch face. I have since married and had three children, and can say I am pretty happy in my life. You could tell this was just a laid-off lumberjack who needed the health insurance. I was in Spring Creek Lodge from 2002 to 2003. Singing Gregorian chants in the hobbit hole. for Nhn Nevada Spring Creek Rnch, Home details and zoning from local records, Walkability, biking, nearby amenities near Nhn Nevada Spring Creek Rnch, 1110 Swanson Meadows Rd, Bonner, MT 59823, #4 Tract, 201.61 +/- Acres, Helmville, MT 59843, #3 Tract, 160 +/- Acres, Helmville, MT 59843, 21 Tract, Nevada Creek Rnch, Helmville, MT 59843, Home Values Near Nhn Nevada Spring Creek Rnch. I was pretty much gone for the Summers staying at a friends house near the beach surfing everyday with my three best friends smoking, drinking, taking ecstasy,acid, getting arrested,steeling my brothers car and driving it to Pennsylvania. The girls mother also sued them for wrongful death and neglect. For more information, log on to our web site at www.nelsonsspringcreek.com or give us a call at 406-222-6560. It was over. Nobody can say you havent done well. cason.trent@yahoo.com, For anyone trying to get their HS transcripts I have a contact! I can remember countless times when they would needlessly call for support staff and watch as 6 male staff pinned me to the ground. The restored wetland complex provides world class waterfowl hunting and endless wildlife viewing, and the spring creek and Nevada Creek are home to wild and native trout species. I was at SCLA from 03-04 and I never once saw a kid get injured who didnt run/fight staff me ever to get restrained. The best spring creek fishing in Montana Our world famous spring creek is one of the most sought after destinations by fly fishermen anywhere in the world. Anyone who might remember me can email me I would love to hear from you all. My name is ERic Rios, i was there from 2001 2002 I was in respect family, I recall the day I went in October 3, 2001 and the day I left April 21, 2002, Anyone remember Tinkerbell the big black guy with cold teet????? He talked to this girl that was beautiful during some of the session where he was trying to face his sex addiction . Thanks. Devin was the stocky short guy. Then there was the eventual building us up near the end of the 3 weeks where they left us alone with a campfire for 3 days. I was with you in Courage and with you some when I made jr. Staff. I just found this website and thankful for it. Im actually starting to write a book about my life and how this place screwed my up so so bad. BOOK NOW (406) 932-4387 CLOSED FOR THE SEASON. Even after the loss of multiple lawsuits, news reports outlining the abuse and new lawsuits filed regularly, they turn a blind eye to hide the children that they broke using the guise of helping them. Zach was there because his alternative wouldve been juvenile prison. It was an action born of us sitting up at night talking when we were family leaders trying to make sure we didnt get programmed. There is currently no conservation easement on this property, offering a great opportunity for preservation while also receiving a tax benefit. I only saw you once or twice because they separated boys and girls, but I thought you were cute. Yeah they messed with us early guys pretty hard. Yeah I remember when you would break dance. can you tell me which facility so i can ask around? please email me at ms.stephanielhudson@yahoo.com I will tell you everything i rememeber. my name is ben. I was led to believe that I was going on a vacation with my Mom to Park Cities, Utah. Maybe youve heard of those schools where they pick you up in the middle of the night and you disappear. The girls memory had faded but was still there. And yes my ass still hurts from sitting on those stupid wooden boxes they had for seats in there at the cubicles. I think I met you in a seminar where they made us stick stickers on boys and made us think about all the times the opposite sex screwed us over? SPRINGWATER RANCH: Features Intersected (Location): BCH OF CAMPBELLS CREEK (SEC 14 T 3N R 4E B) Year Built: 1983: Year Reconstructed: . Some kids that I knew stayed for years. PEACE! If I cold take it and give it back to thoes ppl who ran that place I would. 3 kids, work in IT, got a degree from OU and lived in Denver for a bit. I was also there before the 90s nicely done with your post, ive told a few people the same story pretty much verbatim, weird. My boyfriend was in Spring Creek Lodge for 10 months in 96 and 97. There was also this one time when a girl from one line saw her boyfriend from home walking in another line and they ran to each other and kissed. Life is good. When I disagreed and didnt get off of my bunk I was ripped off the top onto the floor by a male staff member. I remember everything. I was a month from turning 18 and got put in the 18Year program pretty quickly, I think the staff (and my parents) realized they needed a way to keep me there while I was 18 and after. Also, if you wouldnt mind posting this comment on the Youth Foundation page, more parents would be able to read it before they considered sending their kids to youth foundation success academy. I dont know what went on in Samoa, but I know at Spring Creek he was considered one of the less sadistic members of the junior staff and didnt let them brain wash him completely which is quite a fete. Break you down, and then build you into who they wanted you to be. I arrived so fucked up on flowers im the hopes I would die but instead I woke up in hell. I was in SCL for 22 months from 2001 to 2003. I remember you John! There are nine lakes in the area which can be accessed by foot or via 4x4 trails. All the fake relationships to get thru accountability. there are no flowers Basho I will make it to California within the next 2 days. True, I did make a few friends there, but the creepy and psychologically fraudulent aspects of those weird seminars and inner child bullshit were actually traumatizing! Does anyone remember the kid who ran away and defecated on the mailbox? He was at Spring creek from when he was 16-18 years old. Im just a MOM and a believer, one who loves her children more than life itself and who is even more inspired after hearing your stories to do everything in her power to show her teen daughter love, grace, empathy, forgiveness, and direction, so she can go out into the world with hope, happiness, and unlimited opportunity. I hope to find a way to create something I can look forward to but for now I am trying to just get by. I think it was Randy and his brother who had us do grass drills in the rain, running around the basketball court until some kids fell on the ground from being exhausted. We were given like 4 layers of clothes and a parka. The worst for me was the emotional abuse. Was in unity during 2005. He may have known your son. As I read everyones comments about their experiences my heart truly aches for all of you. I was the one that stole the truck and ran away with him. It was very bad but apparently it had gotten worse. I was in Thompson falls in 2003 when I was 16 I was taken in the nigh and spent 4 months. Memoir: Thompson Falls Montana Finally , stinking to all high heavens we came outta the desert all lean and hungry.