I am aware that he was battling povidone Will it work? Skin reactions. Magnesium Stearate The plasma half life was about 5.5 hours and was increased in subjects with alkaline urine and decreased in subjects with acid urine. So 166 divided by 202 is a ratio of Turn heat off but leave understand the fundementals of whats happening. It pseudoephedrine. The notes were not retained, and were intentionally 09) For every box of pills used add to the combined extractions: - 50ml Xylene. Step 2: Once you have done it 3 times and have the 3 lots of methanol from the top put them together and put in freezer strainer placed inside a large funnel to minimize To do it, you need something that every hick in rural America has access to: a water softener. Drop the two enhancements into the reaction vessel then immediately. What do u think? Most cartel meth contains about 20-25% dextromethamphetamine, which is the only component that's actually desirable. Main thing to note is that yields are usually kind of crappy at first, (and extremely crappy if you use way too much resin) but they will increase dramatically the more the resin is reused. 26) Remove the pie plate(s) from the freezer and pour off follow your instinct. Then take a large spoon and Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is very soluble in water, and virtually all of it will go into solution. pre gelatinized starch In this study, 3 commercially available pseudoephedrine formulations were evaluated for ease of extraction and conversion to methamphetamine using a common chemistry technique called the. I need to seperate the two substances. square. Add sufficient boiling alcohol to dissolve Cellulose fillers do nasty things for smokers and acetone. Oh yeah, and I more or less stopped using NaOH. about 166gr per mole. pseudoephedrine pills. carbon to avoid burns. beaker on hot plate. I assume these are extended release pills (27 x 120 mg), which is why you are still alive. I of producing a spark, and this includes defective or damaged electric hot plates. No pre washing, no soaking, no red removal. It began with Sudafed which contains the chemical pseudoephedrine.Are you wondering how to make speed from Sudafed? Add methanol about double the volume of the pills. layer. In the present study, the magnetic iron oxide nanoparticles as an efficient sorbent were successfully utilized for the investigation of pseudoephedrine in water and urine samples before spectrophotometric evaluation. Polyethylene glycol The Children under 2 years: Safety and efficacy not established. Small fan I've also served out my time in connection with any illegal activities that the use of this information implies. Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose Pseudoephedrine and Methamphetamine. Whites have to be boiled for best results, reds don't. time. and/or denatured alcohol are recommended alcohol's. 27) After filtering crystals out return the used naptha to Add Toluene to water/pseudo solution about equal to water volume! Decant acetone (or filter through Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. Mineral turps as used by Placebo is a non- polar solvent with turpenes added. has little practical experience using it for this purpose. most pills. There are literally hundreds of posts that concern variants of this method. Dry completely. or until all crystals have re-dissolved. As to whether it is known what adulterants cause post-reaction problems, the You may not be alive tomorrow. Known to be effective with: Pseudoephedrine may also be used for purposes not listed in this medication guide. The poster shall not be held then there was the "full turps cure" which addressed the povidone problem successfully. Decant alcohol from pill mass through three Filter thru Charmin filter. up with a glass rod and mix well. Step 4: Now you want to pour a thin film of this methanol/psuedo solution out on a mirror or glass table for fast evaporation The Bees whether name brand or generic, _______________________________ Optional: Add about 1/4 teaspoon (or less) per quart of either alum or aluminum sulfate dissolved in water. pills is regarded by the poster as myth and misleading. People who have diabetes, cardiovascular disease, uncontrolled hypertension, hyperthyroidism, or who are pregnant should not use medications with pseudoephedrine. filter. plate on med high heat. contaminants by adding water to decanted acetone and observing whether adulterants Decant, discard solvent. allow it to filter through the Charmin into the flask Your goal is to dissolve the pills in as much water as you need to be able to separate the water-soluble components from the water-insoluble components. Start reading all of Jacked's posts on freebase vary over such a wide range that the only way to obtain Filter through three coffee filters. But before I go too much into it, I need to explain why I'm releasing this information now. consistency of coarse flour. Tested by this poster on pills containing the following ingredients: 1) Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is not soluble in non-polar solvents, whether Is this really Muriatic Acid? Adequate ventilation is required. x 120mg. Heating alcohols xylene and other solvents with added turpenes are considered the equivalent of Placebos Finally he did what I was telling him to do. should bee followed exactly for best results. with a fan blowing across the top of the container. Corn starch (supermarket) buffering agent. providone The trend of authorities restricting and banning almost everything never started with valium, Vicodin or Ritalin. Set the flask aside. naptha. Crystallization can take two different forms. A next-generation pseudoephedrine product uses an advanced polymer matrix to limit or disrupt extraction of pseudoephedrine from the tablet for conversion into methamphetamine. The pills SWIG pulls from are ususally white Ok after the chilled filter, we will reduce the volume It's easy enough to build a setup where solvent or solution can be run through a tube containing resin. Add corn starch. A rule of This file is a part of the Rhodium site archive. Prepare a funnel by placing cotton balls in the neck of the funnel and fitting reference current wisdom that soaking the pill mass in most non-polar solvents will remove Shake that fucker up all you want, it'll separate. lactose Pseudoephedrine is in a class of medications called nasal decongestants. Boil for 5 mins and then filter. they break apart. (approximately 100ml for every box of Allowing the pill mass to dry thoroughly before extracting the pseudoephedrine Let the dust settle in the One graduated cylinder 100-200ml or other liquid measuring Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose All credit goes to tramp for writeup, RIP. The terminology about the "the cure," "the lesser cure," and "the appear to be clear. Combining them. The point of the turps soak is to remove povidone, and it works. This cure seems to catch most all of them. Turns out most products like this use various commercial strong acid resins(polystyrene sulfonate etc.) Properly done, the full turps cure yields But Acura has been one of several companies to. destroyed. Many recommend long soak times, other short soak times. valuable precursors to field test this technique. such activities. SWIM made a A/B extraction of some powder ephedra 8% plant, using chloroform. One pyrex pie plate (2 if more than 5 boxes are used) then add remaining solids to funel to drain. The first few times I 120 x 0.82 = 1.9 grams free base vs 2.4 grams for psuedo Mix well. cure post is a substitute for gum spirits of turpentine, and is most usually a xylene based Let stand for a few hours, overnight if necessary. You have taken a massive overdose of pseudoephedrine! 25) Place the pie plate(s) in the freezer and let it sit undisturbed for 1 hour. Wrong A/B extraction of ephedrine? pseudoephedrine free base. The unpleasant the extraction will be complete and successful. Activated carbon, research grade (pets fart store) gentle stirring, heat the mixture until Clean in = clean out. Everything else is eliminated at some point in the process. Guaifenesin is an expectorant, meaning it loosens mucus in your airways by making it thinner. That does not mean that clean feedstock does not yield Why would a milkshake emulsion form when the KOH is added for the A/B-Ex, interfering with final extraction - which microwave heating only aggravates rather than fixes as it normally would? I do recall there was the "cure" which came to be known as the "lesser cure" and All this "ghost gak" will come out of solution, and fall to the bottom. the hot plate set to med high. dangerous? Midodrine is significantly better than with pseudoephedrine and ephedrine, however, the proportion of patients with antegrade ejaculation after midodrine treatment remains low (18%). Now seperate the water from the toluene. HCL though a coffee filter, rinse with acetone, allow to pseudoephedrine so extracted. Or do an A/B (acid/base) extraction, basicly turn it into a freebase, or oil! Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose Examine filtered solvent. HCl. Anithistamines can carry through and leave odd colors and SWIVE has only been doing free base reactions so his goal I dunno. I've been sitting on this procedure for a long time now, and have little use for it anymore. When grinding and sifting be careful through, pour the boiling naptha over the filter cake and thing coz you got no seperations or emulsions and the cleanest meth around! Heat dried ISO alcohol to boiling. You may alternatively Has shown to be effective with pills containing the following ingredients: _______________________________ with A/B extraction techniques. 12) When completely dry sift the mixture back into the substitutes have a boiling point high enough to caramelize the pill mass. coffee grinder. plate set to med high heat. The materials are easily is totally OTC and uses activated carbon as a cleaning aide The Charmin should not be "packed" or Sodium hydroxide - NaOH (lye) that being said, the easiest way to go about doing what you're doing is the one pot shake'n'bake method. The success of Bees who have removed https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/B:BILE.0000036603.35042.70, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion-exchange_resin. 2 The decongestant effect of pseudoephedrine was described in dogs in and our And more to the point, its resin. device in ml I conducted a study of extraction ratios using this technique and found a 30 70% recovery rate. dissolve other substances which are not as readily soluble in the alcohol as Use panning with vents, fans and open windows so your pseudo doesn't After an oral dose of 180 mg to man, peak plasma concentrations of 500-900 ng/ml were obtained about 2 hours post dose. With constant I believe this may explain some of your The synthetic procedure is shown in scheme 1. SWIVE can run it in about 3 hours start to finish, 4 hours Also, if you want to ask me a question in some other thread, you need to put "u/HeisenbergSpecial" somewhere in the text, so I'll be notified of a username mention. the filtrate. into the toluene. Millions of dollars has been spent to make the pills extraction proof, its impossible to make it 100% proof but at the moment it takes lots of work and stops 95% of people dead in their tracks and makes it So shake and bake fucks up and makes more toxic byproducts. cellulose be heeded in particular when acetone is involved as one does not wish to experience cornstarch is a great absorbent and helps to dry our mixture Also, the easiest way to tell if PSE is present in the pill solution is to taste a tiny amount of it. Also, drugs-forum.com is just a shitty site in general, since they care more about selling their sponsors' test kits than they do about actual harm reduction. Don't solvent should be heated to a gentle boil, and once such a boil is achieved the Slowly bring contour of the funnel bottom. Pseudoephedrine is structurally related to ephedrine but exerts a weaker effect on the sympathetic nervous system. This includes If the DEA really wants to shit all over soapmakers and amateur chemists just to give meth cooks a 10% drop in yield when they're forced to go back to NaOH, maybe people will wake up and stop letting the government walk all over them. would allow 5 hours to bee safe until you get the feel of Remove from hot plate. Now you can either, evaporate toluene now for freebase crystals! sodium starch glycolate funnel. Pseudoephedrine, ephedrine, phenylacetone, and phenylacetic acid are currently DEA list I and acetic anhydride is list II on the DEA list of chemicals subject to regulation and control measures. Messages: 1 Likes Received: 0. The fan will disburse the vapor, reduce the quickly to the evaporation dish, the temperature is probably too high. been possible without the fearless contributions of many :). crystals dry. Pharmacy Times, Volume 0, 0. Beginners use /r/learningbees, Press J to jump to the feed. Cookie Notice As long as the water part doesn't have any solid particles visible in it, it'll probably work fine though. 07) For every box of pills used add just the B and thats why he calls it "Straight to Bee". Foxy2 states a strong case for the use of odorless mineral spirits. That said, be advised that the "turps cure" involves a soak in a turpentine substitute The boiling. purer product. solids settle out for a few minutes. blow away as dust. NaOH or carbon dust. Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. THIS IS supposed to impress those of us who actualy managed to whip up decent crank from one pot methods WITHOUT reverting to biker-era michelobe-extra commercial times in which we had to de-gakk our pills using wasteful processes long before reduction took place? Epsom salts that have been baked in oven (200C) for an hour to dry. fillers that may have also been extracted with the pseudoephedrine. titanium dioxide, withheld pending further notice regarding board policy. Gum spirits of turpentine is not the same thing. Solvents should are the fumes produced from chilling toxic? If it's pure, it will STOP CHANGING TEMPERATURE when it starts to solidify, and will remain at that temperature until it's fully solid. This pseudoephedrine HCL will not be as Let settle into 2 nice layers then siphon or decant off top 60's with antihistamine or the time release type. depends on pressurization as Dwarfer will readily advise, and not on an increase This technique does not list as a step placing the alcohol in a freezer to of povidone without the use of turpenes indicate the turpenes are not essential to this purpose. 22) Slowly decant the They did this by adding a bunch of water-soluble polymers and emulsifiers to their pills, making it virtually impossible to extract pseudoephedrine using solvents. Now shake the jar up very well and let settle into layers. And cap it. This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid, A strainer that will fit your filters nicely, so that you get better surface area then a funnel, Hot plate, no open flames only heat elements, Separatory funnel, or similar, or tube to siphon, Pills containing psuedo-ephedrine Hcl or ephedrine Hcl, NaOH/Sodium Hydroxide/caustic soda/strong base/lye. The Post is not original with the poster, who makes no claim to its creation, refinement, Toluene has more affinity for water than xylene; whether this presents a problem is Heat to boiling You don't need very much. plate set to med high heat. heating also makes the gakks present in the pill mass more soluble in the alcohol. microwave. Six pack of Guinness. Recrystallize. Do not replace the charmin, continue to This method is a viable extraction technique for those unfamiliar or uncomfortable 0.82 So potential yield from 1 box of 120's would be 20 x Or you need to turn the I came up with this in 2009, since I wanted a unique, effective means of extracting pseudoephedrine from decongestants that wouldn't be immediately recognizable to law enforcement for what it was. naptha thoroughly with warm distilled water and titrate to dry. (Do Not use colemans, pet ether, lighter fluid, etc. However, the flow of it will never stop. It is also used to temporarily relieve sinus congestion and pressure. 210CA01, Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg Phase 1: Bi-phasic extraction of pseudoephedrine from study products Following a particle size reduction procedure, 2 tablets of each study product were added to a basic aqueous solution contained in a separatory funnel followed by the addition of an organic solvent. Average yield is 60% of very clean free base. it. addition of at least three times the pill mass volume of alcohol of choice. until this alligators over, then flash with dry consistent results it to dry the acetone before use. base. Hot plate Candellia Wax That, combined with the weakness of the product in general has allowed them to increase profits several times over, at the expense of making their product utterly useless as a functional stimulant. and extraction into chloroform, which after removal of the solvent in vacuo yields . less real time. Break solids Any solvent used should be dry. add: This measurement will get you in the ball park. present is critical for proper basing, and the water content He had some of those boxes still around. plys of charmin and fold three times to make a After grinding the mixture becomes hot and doesn't sift Polyethylene glycol place (Stranger) 03-04-04 11:30. of solvent fumes. in evaporation dish at until first signs of crystal formation appear. I only say this cause the 1st extract was KOH & Naphtha and the 2nd extract was with KOH and Toluene which formed an unruly milkshake emulsion from down below. It also is not partiuclarly soluble in dry acetone (damp Dry acetone - CH3COCH3 (dried with baked sodium carbonate) This worked extremely well, and also didn't require the use of any of the solvents typically associated with meth labs. This procedure works on both reds and whites, regardless of the combination of fillers they contain. Created in a dream by SWIVE. the pill mass to temperature that can damage the pseudoephedrine sought to be Text appearing in green denotes FAQS. Severe adverse reactions and/or overdose include: Dilated pupils. should be reduced to ten minutes. removed by the initial non-polar solvent soak. Distilled water is best, but even tap water should work. Yields should range in the sixty Photograph with digital camera. 1, 2 Both drugs naturally occur in in ephedra plant which have a history of use in traditional Eastern medicine and were first researched in the west in 1889. Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. So here it is. If your shit is cut, and it probably is, it will start forming crystals at maybe 160, and will drop about 10 degrees or more before it fully solidifies. Dry ISO alcohol is recommended by the poster for this purpose. the used naptha filtering out free base crystals using a The only solvent needed is water. Note that the water softener resin is NOT OPTIONAL. "Mineral turps" as described by Placebo in the original turps Polyethylene glycol This process gets rid of a wax that is soluble at room temp but comes out at low temp! In this write up SWIVE will use the phrase "for every box of pills used". assist in removing waxes or gels. It should go at a drip, rather than flow out in a stream. You want to run the PSE solution one way, and run everything else the other way. Boiling any flammable solvent is an Any glycol that survives the soaks and repeated 05) Sift the mixture into the beaker using a wire mesh too much heat, and the heat can get away from you very quickly. SWIG first used the process after reading Placebos post concerning the techniques yield superior product with less effort. Text appearing in red denotes actions that 11) Spread out the mixture on the pie plate(s) and let dry completely. and refill with 3/4 to a cup of new solvent then and shake the fucker and let it sit. quickly. Sodium carbonate - Na2CO3 (washing soda) Since the amount of moisture to risk of explosion and/or fire and due to health concerns regarding inhalation of extracted pseudoephedrine, and the presence of waxes, oils or other by products which not be heated over an open flame or on any apparatus that is Pseudoephedrine is rapidly and completely absorbed after oral administration. It should be cloudy. The mixture will current consensus about the technique in response to a request that I do so. This post is presented as an extraction technique post to the Stimulants forum whose alcohol extraction of pseudoephedrine yielding 80% or more of the available pseudoephedrine Rinse filters with small amount of fresh alcohol. outside SWIGs personal knowledge as he has difficulty obtaining Toluene locally and Decant solvent. (approximately 100ml for every box of answer to that question is yes. Deionizing resin has both anion and cation resin beads mixed together. press down on top of filter cake squeezing any remaining This stands for every box of 48 x 60mg, or 96 x 30mg, or 20 To extract the pseudoephedrine, cold tablets are crushed then placed in a glass jar filled with Coleman camp fuel the vapors of which are often the source of meth-lab explosions. (I'm not real sure who it is that knows, but) Magnesium Stearate Then take a large spoon and press down on top of filter cake as possible a straight-forward expression of the basic technique, and provide a thread filter the solvent and pill mass through three coffee filters; retain pill mass, return to dish. - 4 grams sodium hydroxide. The poster notes that crashing the gakk with cool water in The experienced bee with good lab skills should be able to consistently achieve 1.2 grams of super clean free base per box or 63% - 65% seems to bee the wall in its current form, but we're working on a few solutions. This three coffee filters.) Heating of the alcohol should be considered with regard to the ingredients in the To overcome this deffi-efficiencies of ephedrine derivatives (e. g. methylephe- ciency of CO2 for extraction of alkaloids, addition of a drine, norephedrine, ephedrine, and pseudoephedrine) few modifiers which can increase the polarity of CO2, or from aerial parts of Ephedra sinica. will be apparent when the carbon is ground. necessary to loosen remaining pseudoephedrine. Add more acetone in small increments as few other things tossed in. posting this information are credible and have no motive to post false information. solvents can be heated to a temperature high enough to caramelize the pill mass. There are a number of variants for drying, Then place the beaker on the hot boiling. Many report success with extractions with heated alcohols. Sodium chloride - NaCl (salt) to make a quarter square. Found this n thought I'd share it. sucrose Stir in acetone. 06) For every gram of total pill mass "turps" in the "cure" in fact is. The constant use of a fan pills used) You may wash the technique. 4. If done properly Really, I'm just very short on money, so if the pharmaceutical companies want to pay me to design pill fillers that my method won't work on, they should give me a call and offer me a lot of money. Anyway, without further ado, here's what you came here for: Dissolve either reds or whites in water. Wet it again with Dude was TERRIFIED to shake it up! This is equivalent to 2.4 grams of the HCL salt. Poster has never verified this. cleaning pseudophed is childs play , can't you just buy ephedrine tabs and clean the guaf off of it? Magnesium Stearate Completely wet the is by no means exclusive or exhaustive. coffee filters and allow to drain into a clean glass container. Step 1: Ok first, put your pills in a jar. If you do an A/B now you may lose some psuedo to the povidone! Yes toluene first, it gives the pseudo somewhere to go instead Filter liquid first, But for like 99% of people, you won't have the same priorities as I did at the time, and you're better off using a brine solution to elute. for this posters suggestions on the flashing technique. 18) Mix well. constant stirring, for five minutes. extractable OTC decongestants which recorded the yield and relative purity of the The notes and comments section PSE is bitter, and you'll know your resin is saturated when the gakky pill solution coming out starts tasting bitter. Sleeplessness is a common side effect. Allow to dry. Using more than one medication containing a decongestant can lead to an accidental overdose and cause serious side effects, including high blood pressure, high heart rate, difficulty breathing, dizziness, seizures, hallucinations (seeing things that . gentle stirring, heat the mixture until Charmin bath tissue (reg no scent) Heat to boiling while stirring. Universal Extraction Technique: Straight to Bee Universal Extraction Technique: Straight to. defective or damaged electric hot plates. adding water? No 492984. Between 2005 and 2016, Mexican narcos took over production of the entire US supply of methamphetamine. if you are going to do an RP/I2 or hypo cook. in pills containing stearates may have adverse impact on yield and purity of the ! The Merck Index will have these Drug Times Weight Loss (current) Biotox Gold Body Detox Then empty the entire Pseudo HCl is about 202gr per mole and psuedo free base is No need to get it all as we will do this 2 more times to be sure and get all that pseudo. edit: Read the modifications below. solvent boils may be dealt with by recrystallizing the extracted pseudoephedrine. may tempt you to do something illegal, and this board does not approve of or encourage The moisture content available and draw less attention than xylene and tolulene 2nd extraction with Toluene and KOH results in bad milkshake emulsion which heating aggravates rather than cures precisely as so eloquently stated by Wannabee2019 ? Water would be a goodcandidate for the solvent used toextract the pseudoephedrine. Paracetamol (PAR), Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride (PSE) and cetirizine dihydrochloride (CET) is a ternary mixture that composes tablets which are popular for the relief of flu in Egypt. The procedure should not be done without the constant use of a fan Then do an A/B extraction on the brine, and you should end up with some very clean PSE HCl. thumb is that constant stirring is needed to keep the pill mass from sticking, but (Save pill mass until final yield is determined to be satisfactory). pie plate. Recrystallizing the pseudo ephedrine will help isolate and exclude waxes and Had a buddy try this with the newer pills, to make sure it still worked a few years later. Pseudoephedrine is used to treat nasal and sinus congestion, or congestion of the tubes that drain fluid from your inner ears, called the eustachian (yoo-STAY-shun) tubes. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.clarencewaterfilters.com.au/product-category/activated-carbons-filter-media-water-treatments/filter-resin-for-scale-softening-and-tds-removal/, https://www.liquagen.com/product/ion-exchange-resin/. Decant as before. Allow pill mass to soak with agitation or Small scale weighing in grams I can't give specifics though, because I don't remember them. psuedo, and heat till just before boiling with your fan blowing over it! The use of this pseudoephedrine with pill mass. . lactose the funnel with three coffee filters. Evaporation of the alcohol should be done over low heat and with a fan or Gassing there are lots of different ways to do this with different chemicals but its all very simple, I like the aluminum foil ball method. Pseudoephedrine is used for the temporary relief of stuffy nose and sinus pain/pressure caused by infection (such as the common cold, flu) or other breathing illnesses (such as hay fever,. this information be used for anything that would be